12/15/2023 0 Comments Tidy folders in roonSo the question becomes, how should the Roon folks contribute to managing that IT overhead, and how much should they expect users to know and be able to use external tools? That’s a decision they have to make. Maybe that will change in the future, but for now it’s like there are two separate stages requiring substantially different expertise: The user experience is rich, easy, and transparent, but there’s significant IT-management overhead. The most successful Roon users seem to be people who understand the relationship between folder-level/track-level organization and the Roon interface. In response to the earlier request (which was indeed a bit hard to follow), Carl wrote, “One of Roon design goals is to abstract the UI from the physical location of where the audio files are stored, be that locally on the device, on a NAS or streamed from Tidal.” Later in that thread, Mike wrote, “As mentioned, one of the major goals of Roon is seeing your collection as artists, albums, composers, and works (which help us understand the context of our favorite songs) as opposed to folders and files, which simply tell us how our music is stored on a hard drive.” Yet, making the UI experience successful seems to require grappling with the files during ripping and importation. In a sense I think Geoff_Couple, below, nailed it when he said “I suspect you might be better off trying to fix the issue that remote access to your NUC server via a file browser is flaky.” But first, let me make a general observations. Nick, thanks so much for taking the time to explain your workflow. I find that a single \artist\album folder containing all tracks tagged and saved with correct disc number and album title works very well with Roon album ID matching Pointing at the rip destination folder on my laptop, I fix the newly ripped CD to be exactly how I want it using mp3tag (use whatever tag tool you like) Regardless I will usually perform a tidy-up in mp3tag see 5) The folder names may be slightly different depending on what data came down into dbpa and whether I overwrote it at the rip stage. This is largely because of the tagging and file saving rules that are used. The multi discs of a set may initially be in separate folders. Double check what meta data comes in and whether it matches the physical media you have in hand is always a good thing. Using your 3 CD set as a good example…I also see that dbpa does often get the wrong disc number with these so a bit of care is required at the ripping stage. Where is the main folder located that the dragged albums land in ? Is that on the NUC or another drive somewhere on the network or hanging off the NUC? Can you copy folders to that location using normal PC/mac copy actions (forget Roon for a mo)? But unless Roon can fix, rather than propagate, errors that arise during ripping in the dozens of ripping programs out there, there’s a need for a built-in file browser. If so, great–no need for a Roon-based folder browser. So hopefully in the next release, importing music and fixing errors through the interface will work so well that none of this will be a problem. That works fine for some things, but I’ve wasted hours trying to fix albums through the interface in cases where the underlying file structure is compromised. Which means that the only way to fix errors is via the Roon Remote interface. Three nights ago, I rebooted the server half a dozen times. I can only see the file structure on the server via some sort of remote connection, and I’m finding these–from a Mac to a PC–to be flakey, especially when I start trying to make a bunch of changes to the remote machine connection is lost and won’t restart until the server has been rebooted. I upload music by dragging it onto the Roon remote interface. But that doesn’t work for me because I serve audio from a NUC server with no monitor attached. Just last night I found three box sets where disk numbers were messed up: either reversed (in one 2-disk set) or redundant (i.e., three "disk 2"s in one 3-disk set).Īs long as you’re working on the computer that includes the files, it’s easy enough to call up a file browser to adjust directory structure, filenames, and so on. I’ve now used both iTunes and dBpoweramp the latter is better, but in both cases, metadata errors propagate into the file structure. However, as I rip and import a lot of music, I’m finding that viewing file structure is essential for fixing the errors that inevitably occur. I decided to start a new thread here–feel free to combine if you think that’s more appropriate–because my motivations are quite different from those of people requesting a file browser in Roon.
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